Gods word is perfectly clear and true.
Firstly understand unless one is saved by Jesus Christ who is God you are unable to understand scripture. That said, the world is filled with deception and lies from self ordained church leaders, tele- evangelisrts, pastors, scholars and theologians who trust their own understandings or those doctrines of other men and religious institutions.
Every word in scripture in the original tongue is from the mouth of GOD. It is perfect, it is holy and it is TRUE.
When some or many do not understand and wish to enforce their own conclusions and find as many as possible to agree with them. few actually ask questions or when something is taught from anyone… then go and test this against scripture, keeping in mind that God teaches us to ‘compare scripture with scripture’. The holy word is perfect, it is its own commentary and it is good for teaching, correction and Proof.
The disciples taught ONE gospel, the gospel of Jesus Christ, and that we should adhere to today, if you be fortunate enough to hear it anywhere.
So indeed, even I become mocked again it does not matter, what does matter how other members may become confused from certain discussions… it is when we suddenly take Gods word , then add our own conclusions such as predestination vs free will, the two are never spoken of together in the entire bible !! and rightly so as we can see. Now.
I had explained in detail that when God says, that He, Jesus Christ as creator says here in:
Rom_8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Rom_8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
AND we read here in
1Pe_1:20 Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, and in
1Pe 1:2 Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ: Grace unto you, and peace, be multiplied.
There are more verses that approve above and that Jesus Christ foreordained the few elected to become saved in all of time, before creation.
NOW, KNOW GOD is above time… scripture teaches he knows the end from the beginning; that said it has nothing to do with removing ‘free will’ of man. Why doubt GOD?, does he not know every hair on your head?, did He not die for the sins of the ones He saves? Is it not clear that all men sin and scripture teaches that
Rom_6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. unless He saves us we would all surely die, that is the gospel of grace and perfect love.
The argument that predestination takes away free will is accounts perfectly describe even completely unrelated, which many accounts in the entire bible are scattered and the consequences of those choices taught.
My brethren, hope this clears my humble and brief attempt to teach above, I will gladly expound if asked and peace be upon you.
Gal 1:15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother’s womb, and called me by his grace, Amen